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The most reliable device for long term backups?

 

Gothic Image said, 1713953245

Stu H said

Gothic Image

Cheers... I'm the same - NVME in a PCI slot.

I'll have a read at lunch.

It's almost as if we've read the same posts by Huw


Yes, funny that!  :-)

(I'm just awaiting the arrival of another HP Turbo PCI NVME card from eBay)

rugglez said, 1714115432

paper

SimonHendy said, 1714135829

Backblaze's unlimited offering is interesting - as mentioned earlier, it doesn't support network drives.

In order to back up the ~6TB of data I have on my NAS, I need a different offering which is $6/TB/month, so $430 a year - significantly more expensive than the $99 on the basic service.

IDrive look like a feasible alternative - 10TB for $150/year ($106 for the first year), including multiple devices. They also do $1000/$70 for 5TB.

waist.it said, 1714140181

SimonHendy said

Backblaze's unlimited offering is interesting - as mentioned earlier, it doesn't support network drives.

In order to back up the ~6TB of data I have on my NAS, I need a different offering which is $6/TB/month, so $430 a year - significantly more expensive than the $99 on the basic service.

IDrive look like a feasible alternative - 10TB for $150/year ($106 for the first year), including multiple devices. They also do $1000/$70 for 5TB.


Interesting. Sadly, $430 a year is a tad out of my league. Besides, I have getting-on for 20TB. Because of the way GNU/Linux handles network connections - or to be more precise, because of the way I handle networking with GNU/Linux - all a backup host would ever see is one very big device. We already have industrial-strength backup tools (ssh, rsync et al). Means all I require is a large, no-frills, encrypted remote storage, that plays nicely with GNU/Linux, that's also dirt cheap. Sadly when one studies the small print, it seems there really isn't such a thing, at the moment.

Which means I'm back to a Raspberry Pi 4 c/w 20TB encrypted HD, in a cupboard in my mum's flat, after all. :-)

I've already designed and costed this: about £450, one off payment, no rental charges or any of that malarkey. Also means the backup volume will be identical to all my other 20TB encrypted back up volumes. Thus making it easily swapped-out etc. Also means device can be powered-off (and 100% hack proof) while not in use.

FWIW, I'm also discussing similar reciprocal back-up arrangements with my kid brother and a couple of old mates. I may be in a minority of one here, but I rather like the notion of my data being with people I know well and trust, rather than some unaccountable foreign corporation.

Of course, all of the above is a tad academic ATM because our current broadband is too crap! :-(

MidgePhoto said, 1714140773

waist.it there's something to be said for a daisy chain of backups, or a network, with each going to more than one other in a ring, and perhaps division around all the ring.

waist.it said, 1714142176

MidgePhoto said

waist.it there's something to be said for a daisy chain of backups, or a network, with each going to more than one other in a ring, and perhaps division around all the ring.


Absolutely. That is pretty much what ours do. Though it will be better when our BB is fast enough to perform incremental rsync backups on line, rather than physically moving disks around. By having near-identical encrypted volumes, the backups kinda permeate from the inner to the outer rings. And because they all have very strong encryption, I don't have to worry too much about a volume going astray - not that one ever has...

Gothic Image said, 1714147743


SimonHendy said

Backblaze's unlimited offering is interesting - as mentioned earlier, it doesn't support network drives.

In order to back up the ~6TB of data I have on my NAS, I need a different offering which is $6/TB/month, so $430 a year - significantly more expensive than the $99 on the basic service.

IDrive look like a feasible alternative - 10TB for $150/year ($106 for the first year), including multiple devices. They also do $1000/$70 for 5TB.


Just copy the NAS to a big single disk and backup from that? A separate copy of the NAS isn't a bad idea anyway. 

SimonHendy said, 1714162820

It's an interesting idea, but I do already have 2 copies of the NAS data (each across multiple drives). My need is to create an off-site copy and I'd need to buy *another* external (6tb) drive, and then keep it predominantly attached to my laptop - see Backblaze quote below.

"Backblaze Computer Backup works best if you leave the external hard drive attached to your computer all of the time. However, Backblaze backs up external USB and Firewire hard drives that are detached and reattached as long as you remember to reattach the hard drive at least once every 30 days."

IDrive isn't outrageously expensive, especially when you add in the cost (and tbh inconvenience) of the external disk I'd need to buy.

Gothic Image said, 1714196929

SimonHendy said

It's an interesting idea, but I do already have 2 copies of the NAS data (each across multiple drives). My need is to create an off-site copy and I'd need to buy *another* external (6tb) drive, and then keep it predominantly attached to my laptop - see Backblaze quote below.

"Backblaze Computer Backup works best if you leave the external hard drive attached to your computer all of the time. However, Backblaze backs up external USB and Firewire hard drives that are detached and reattached as long as you remember to reattach the hard drive at least once every 30 days."

IDrive isn't outrageously expensive, especially when you add in the cost (and tbh inconvenience) of the external disk I'd need to buy.


I hadn't realised you were on a laptop - that does limit things a bit.

Huw said, 1714197524

https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-365/p/microsoft-365-family/cfq7ttc0k5dm?activetab=pivot:overviewtab

Microsoft 365 Family.

£79 per year, up to 6 TB of OneDrive storage.

1 TB per person. ;)

Stu H said, 1714202011

SimonHendy

I split my backups between Synology C2 - for all important stuff that the house can't do without, plus photos etc of the kids - and iDrive takes care of the rest (once I'd sorted out what really needs to be backed up and what doesn't.)

Maybe worth it for you?

ThePictureCompany said, 1714297868

Of course now I am getting FTTP @1GB internet I can have everything on an FTP and nothing local to myself so all my backups are automatically sorted for me.